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- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:30:07 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #845
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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 27 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 845
-
- Today's Topics:
- August 73 for Ramsey
- FCC Processing info ...
- Military Test Equipment
- Q: Frequency allocation in USA
- Radar
- Radio mods by FTP. Where?
- Ramsey SlyFox
- Why is 1750Hz tone used in Europe? (2 msgs)
-
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-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 18:53:31 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: August 73 for Ramsey
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Darryl, Do actually think we could sell a dual band amp in kit form and expect
- the average Joe to build it? My gosh, the ARRL couldn't get their fx to work
- and you of course read what joe moell could do. (A shorted disc cap... come on,
- I've yet to encounte
- r one of those. A solder bridge, yes. But that's my gut feeling!) I wish I
- could let you see some of the incredible solder/assembly jobs we get back here,
- and I like to think our manuals are pretty good. It's hard to make a kit that
- can be easily built and
- aligned by the average ham on his kitchen table. I like to think we make it as
- easy as possible to enable the builder to get something working with as little
- test equipment as possible. With all the talk about how you need a spectrum
- analyzer before you p
- ut that on the air... it makes me wonder what the hams did years ago when they
- built most of their gear???
-
- Although I appreciate your offer, past experience with our 2M kit and seeing
- the level of expertise of the FM operator makes the mere thought of a 2M/440
- kit nearly impossible. Thanks, tho'
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 10:49:34 -0500
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ddsw1!mbi.moody.edu!mbi.moody.edu!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
- Subject: FCC Processing info ...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I posted some info to rec.radio.amateur.policy (I intended to x-post
- here, but didn't seem to work) about what the FCC is doing to get the
- licenses out quicker.
-
- Any follow-ups to that post should be directed here.
-
-
- Paul -- N9WHG
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 18:35:08 -0400
- From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Military Test Equipment
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anyone forward me any suggestions, leads, etc., on
- individuals/suppliers/junque traders of military radios and test
- equipment?
- I am looking for an obscure piece of equipment and I don't even know who
- to ask.
- Reply directly,
- thanks,
- scott nx7u@aol.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 16:21:52 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!well!barrnet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!bert.cs.byu.edu!chad@ames.arpa
- Subject: Q: Frequency allocation in USA
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi
-
- I was wondering where I could find out about frequency allocation in the US.
- I am interested in the 20mhz-80mhz range with details of all allowed uses,
- allocations, etc.
-
- Thanks
- Chad
- chad@bert.cs.byu.edu\
-
- --
- ------------------------- Live Free or Die !----------------------------
- Chad Leigh | When Guns are Outlawed, Criminals Win!
- private citizen | Stop the socialization of America!
- software engineer | Stop Clinton and company
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 17:26:46 -0400
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!dancer.ca.sandia.gov!cronkite.nersc.gov!fastrac.llnl.gov!usenet.ee.pdx.edu!cs.uoregon.edu!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!hp-cv!hp-pcd!sdd.hp.com!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radar
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anybody help me out? I am looking for information
- on speed detection radar that the police use. Specifically,
- doplar radar. I would like information on accuracy. If you
- have done any tests or know someone who has and could help me,
- I would greatly appriciate it.
-
- thanks in advance...
-
-
- matt...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 11:10:43 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!gt-news!prism!prism!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radio mods by FTP. Where?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello,
-
- I know there used to be at least one FTP site that archived all the mods to
- various radios. I seem to have lost the address though. Can someone tell me
- what it is?
-
- Barring that, I need the current list of mods for the Yaesu FT-530. I know
- there are at least 2, one to enable out of band Rx/Tx; and one to just
- enable out of band Rx....
-
- I really need this info sometime today (7/26/04), so please reply via
- e-mail; even if you don't reply today.....
-
- Much Thanks,
-
- Monte KC4GPW
-
-
- --
- Monte Freeman -- Operations Department / Information Technology
- Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
- Internet: ccoprfm@prism.gatech.edu
- Bitnet: ccoprfm@gitvm1.bitnet
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 94 19:00:34 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Ramsey SlyFox
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Cecil, The manual clearly states to spread the coils for max power output. We
- purposely have the coils wound with a 'tad' too much inductance - it's easier
- to spread the coils a bit than to have to add more turns!
-
- de the old college days easier - I changed many a tank circuit, modifying
- commercial 2 way radios for buddies of mine!
-
- 73, John
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 06:52:25 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- Subject: Why is 1750Hz tone used in Europe?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CtKnIF.9qM@freenet.carleton.ca> ax446@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Daniel Hilliker) writes:
- >In a previous article, jdwhite@iastate.edu (Jason White) says:
- >> I'm simply curious as to why a 1750Hz tone is used to access European
- >>repeaters.
- >
- >Hi There...
- >
- >I just came back from 18 months in the UK where all of the repeaters (2m
- >at least...) were on the 1750 Hz tone. As I was a poor North American
- >with a handheld which didn't do the 1750 thing, I had to whistle into
- >every conversation
-
- which is the exact reason I gave for them choosing 1750 Hz - it's
- an easy frequency to hit by whistling into your mic.
-
- For those of you in California, listen to the CDF between 151.190 and
- 151.455 MHz - they still use tone burst to access their repeaters.
- When I worked for them I would occasionally make the mistake (hee hee)
- of giving a long rising whistle on State 1 to see how many repeaters
- I could key up at once; unkeying I hear a mess of heterodynes.
-
- Your tax dollars at work.
-
-
- Jeff NH6IL
- jeffrey@math.hawaii.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 21:10:25 +0000
- From: pipex!demon!kirsta.demon.co.uk!John@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Why is 1750Hz tone used in Europe?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <30vo14$s7b@news.iastate.edu>
- jdwhite@iastate.edu "Jason White" writes:
-
- >
- > I'm simply curious as to why a 1750Hz tone is used to access European
- > repeaters.
-
- Why 1750Hz or why a tone at all?
-
- The answer to the latter is that our licensing authorities insist on
- it. They will not permit a unit which will retransmit a signal which
- just happens to come up on the air: you must take some positive action
- to make it come up. Currently that is mostly by tone access at the
- start of the QSO. We are slowly moving towards CTSS.
-
- Why 1750Hz? Dunno! It has to be somehting, and I guess 1750 is right in
- the middle of the audio passband!
-
- 73, John.
-
- --
- John Morris email: John@kirsta.demon.co.uk AX25: GM4ANB@GB7EDN.#77.GBR.EU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 15:54:16 GMT
- From: olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!csn!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com!scott@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jul13.221526.6932@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <304ho6$3hk@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, <1994Jul16.140615.21296@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>vld
- Subject : Re: which Ringo do I buy?
-
- Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
-
- : I didn't equate the Ringo to a wet string. I merely noted that we all
- : know that less than optimum antennas *can* be used, *even* a wet string.
- : As inclusion of the ducky indicates, I was saying that inefficient antennas
- : are often (but not always) acceptable compromises in the amateur service.
-
- Gary, I don't think I've grossly misread your opinion about the Ringo.
- As I read back through your comments, the inference is pretty strong
- that you consider the antenna to be little more than junk.
-
- BTW, I think I'd change your last sentence to "inefficient antennas are
- *usually* (but not always) acceptable compromises in the amateur
- service." And therin may lie the crux of our difference in opinion.
- Most of us simply cannot justify the time/money/room/effort required for
- *optimal* antenna solutions, so we compromise. Those compromises should
- be well considered ones and thus require information with a bit more
- resolution than A is junk and B is great. That lack of information was
- really what I was reacting to.
-
-
- : >Again agreed. It's really a case, though, of when enough is enough.
-
- : The thread was about which antenna is *better*, not which is *enough*.
-
- Ahh, but how do you define better? I'll make the statement that at the
- time I put up my Ringo, it was the *BEST* antenna for me. Best because
- in the real world there are many variables which determine good
- solutions. Certainly performance is one of the variables, but not the
- only one. Time, money, availability, ease of assembly, experience of
- the user and a host of other things come into play. At the time my
- Ringo went up, I was just starting out. I wasn't sure how serious I was
- going to get, didn't want to spend much money (couldn't really justify
- it) and didn't have much time to spend (and again couldn't really justify
- spending much). For a small investment in both time and money, I got a
- solid performer that has served me very well.
-
- Now that I'm a bit more serious, I'm looking at higher performance
- options, including some homebrew ones. I'm more interested now, and
- more willing to invest more time and money. But I would certainly
- recommend a newcomer consider the Ringo particularly under circumstances
- similar to mine. And I'll also stand by my original statement to that
- newcomer to worry more about getting whatever they put up as high as
- possible rather than about getting the ultimate gain vertical built to
- withstand hurricanes.
-
- : If you're going to buy a commercial antenna, you really
- : should try to get the most value for your dollar. I don't think the
- : Ringo fills that bill very well.
-
- Curious statement for an antenna that can be purchased so cheaply. I
- think the Ringo provides very good bang for the buck.
-
- Enough. Readers are likely beginning to think I'm some kind of
- Cushcraft fanatic and that's really not the case.
-
-
- Scott Turner KG0MR scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jul 1994 20:34:44 GMT
- From: hplextra!news.dtc.hp.com!col.hp.com!jwc@hplabs.hpl.hp.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <304ho6$3hk@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>, <1994Jul16.140615.21296@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <313bj8$5d5@hplvec.lvld.hp.com>
- Subject : Re: which Ringo do I buy?
-
- It could be where we live, but i'll back Scott as to the best vertical antenna for the money being a RR 2.
- Now if we're talking about a Cushcraft AR 270 (the dual band ringo)
- it can be beat with a rollup 2 meter twinlead j-pole. I've done it.
- No one that I know will keep this antenna if they do any comparisons with it.
- John, N0KIC
-
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-
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